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==Problem Statement==
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''Could somebody please state the problem?''
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I do not understand how to tell what a generator of a subgroup is? I think that the subgroups of Z20 are (1,2,4,5,10,20), but that also might not be right. Anyways I could use a little explanation please.
 
I do not understand how to tell what a generator of a subgroup is? I think that the subgroups of Z20 are (1,2,4,5,10,20), but that also might not be right. Anyways I could use a little explanation please.
  
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There is a corrolary to the Fundamental Theorem of Cyclic Groups on page 79 of the textbook that is really useful for this problem.
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There is a corollary to the Fundamental Theorem of Cyclic Groups on page 79 of the textbook that is really useful for this problem.
 
Say you want to find all subgroups of <math>Z_n</math>.  The corrolary states that, for each positive divisor k of n, the set <math>\langle n/k \rangle</math> is the unique subgroup of <math>Z_n</math> of order k.  It also states that these subgroups are the only ones <math>Z_n</math> has.
 
Say you want to find all subgroups of <math>Z_n</math>.  The corrolary states that, for each positive divisor k of n, the set <math>\langle n/k \rangle</math> is the unique subgroup of <math>Z_n</math> of order k.  It also states that these subgroups are the only ones <math>Z_n</math> has.
 
Hence, to enumerate the subgroups, just find all the positive integer divisors of n (in this case 20), and use them to generate the subgroups.
 
Hence, to enumerate the subgroups, just find all the positive integer divisors of n (in this case 20), and use them to generate the subgroups.
 
  
 
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HW3, Chapter 4, Problem 9, MA453, Fall 2008, Prof. Walther

Problem Statement

Could somebody please state the problem?


Discussion

I do not understand how to tell what a generator of a subgroup is? I think that the subgroups of Z20 are (1,2,4,5,10,20), but that also might not be right. Anyways I could use a little explanation please.


Check the back of the book. Theres a selected answer/hint section. It gives some good information about the problem. The subgroups are given by (1,2,4,5,10,20), which are the generators. So I think you are on the right track. Hope that helps.



There is a corollary to the Fundamental Theorem of Cyclic Groups on page 79 of the textbook that is really useful for this problem. Say you want to find all subgroups of $ Z_n $. The corrolary states that, for each positive divisor k of n, the set $ \langle n/k \rangle $ is the unique subgroup of $ Z_n $ of order k. It also states that these subgroups are the only ones $ Z_n $ has. Hence, to enumerate the subgroups, just find all the positive integer divisors of n (in this case 20), and use them to generate the subgroups.


Confusion... So, does it mean generator = subgroup? I mean,... like for the example above, 1,2,4,5,10,20 are the generators and <1>,<2>,<4>.... are the subgroup??? Correct me if I'm wrong... Thanks

--Mmohamad 21:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


It does not mean that generator = subgroup. You get the generators from the group and you get the subgroups from the generators. Your notation is correct. 1,2,4,... are the generators and <1>,<2>,<4>, ... are the subgroups. For example, 1 is a generator and the subgroup of 1 is = <1> which is in fact = {1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,...., 0} in this case.

-Ozgur



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