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Obtain the Fourier series coefficients of the DT signal  
 
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for <span class="texhtml">''c''''o''''s''(''n'')</span>, the coefficients are <math>a_1=\frac{1}{2},a_{-1}=\frac{1}{2}, a_k=0 \mbox{ for }k\ne 1,-1</math>  
 
for <span class="texhtml">''c''''o''''s''(''n'')</span>, the coefficients are <math>a_1=\frac{1}{2},a_{-1}=\frac{1}{2}, a_k=0 \mbox{ for }k\ne 1,-1</math>  
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Student Question: Since this is DT and not CT, shouldn't the focus be on N=2 and not <span class="texhtml">''w''<sub>''o''</sub></span>? ([[User:Clarkjv|Clarkjv]] 20:36, 8 February 2011 (UTC))  
 
Student Question: Since this is DT and not CT, shouldn't the focus be on N=2 and not <span class="texhtml">''w''<sub>''o''</sub></span>? ([[User:Clarkjv|Clarkjv]] 20:36, 8 February 2011 (UTC))  
  
Student Response: Yeah, it should be. I did this before today's lecture, and made some mistakes. I'm posting a new answer in answer 2. --[[User:Cmcmican|Cmcmican]] 19:46, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
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Student Response: Yeah, it should be. I did this before today's lecture, and made some mistakes. I'm posting a new answer in answer 2. --[[User:Cmcmican|Cmcmican]] 19:46, 9 February 2011 (UTC)  
  
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Based on lecture today, I am changing my answer to the following:
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Based on lecture today, I am changing my answer to the following:  
  
<math>N=\frac{2\pi}{3\pi}k=2</math> so there will be two coefficients.
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<math>N=\frac{2\pi}{3\pi}k=2</math> so there will be two coefficients.  
  
<math>x[n]=\frac{1}{2}e^{j(3\pi n + \frac{\pi}{2})}+\frac{1}{2}e^{-j(3\pi n + \frac{\pi}{2})}=\frac{1}{2}e^{j\frac{\pi}{2}}e^{j3\pi n}+\frac{1}{2}e^{-j\frac{\pi}{2}}e^{-j3\pi n}=\frac{j}{2}e^{j3\pi n}-\frac{j}{2}e^{-j3\pi n}</math>
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<math>x[n]=\frac{1}{2}e^{j(3\pi n + \frac{\pi}{2})}+\frac{1}{2}e^{-j(3\pi n + \frac{\pi}{2})}=\frac{1}{2}e^{j\frac{\pi}{2}}e^{j3\pi n}+\frac{1}{2}e^{-j\frac{\pi}{2}}e^{-j3\pi n}=\frac{j}{2}e^{j3\pi n}-\frac{j}{2}e^{-j3\pi n}</math>  
  
and <math>e^{j3\pi n}=e^{-j3\pi n}=e^{j\pi n}\,</math>
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and <math>e^{j3\pi n}=e^{-j3\pi n}=e^{j\pi n}\,</math>  
  
so <math>x[n]=\frac{j}{2}e^{j\pi n}-\frac{j}{2}e^{j\pi n}=0</math>
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so <math>x[n]=\frac{j}{2}e^{j\pi n}-\frac{j}{2}e^{j\pi n}=0</math>  
  
<math>a_0=0, a_{1}=0</math>
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<span class="texhtml">''a''<sub>0</sub> = 0,''a''<sub>1</sub> = 0</span>  
  
is that right?
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is that right? --[[User:Cmcmican|Cmcmican]] 20:01, 9 February 2011 (UTC)  
--[[User:Cmcmican|Cmcmican]] 20:01, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
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It doesn't look right intuitively.&nbsp; From a<sub>k</sub>, you are supposed to be able to get back your original signal. What you have is a<sub>k</sub> = 0 for all values of k and therefore is a null signal.
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How's this?
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If <math>x[n] = \cos \left(3\pi n + \frac{\pi}{2} \right) . \ </math> then a<sub>k</sub> must be something since you get x[n] by summing all the values of a<sub>k</sub> multiplied by a factor of e.
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<math>cos(3\pi*n+\pi/2) = \frac{e^(j(3\pi*n+\pi/2)+e^{-j*(3\pi*n+\pi/2)}}{2}
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=1/2e^{j3\pi*n}e^{j*\pi/2} + 1/2e^{-j3\pi*n}e^{-j\pi/2}=</math>
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<math>\frac{1}{2}*e^{j3\pi*n}*e^{j\pi/2}+\frac{1}{2}*e^{-j*3\pi*n}*e^{-j*\pi/2}</math>
  
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a_3=1/2*e^{\pi/2}
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a_{-3}=1/2*e^{-j\pi/2}
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</math> ([[User:Clarkjv|Clarkjv]] 11:38, 11 February 2011 (UTC))

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Practice Question on Computing the Fourier Series coefficients of a discrete-time (sampled) cosine wave

Obtain the Fourier series coefficients of the DT signal

$ x[n] = \cos \left(3\pi n + \frac{\pi}{2} \right) . \ $


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Answer 1

for c'o's(n), the coefficients are $ a_1=\frac{1}{2},a_{-1}=\frac{1}{2}, a_k=0 \mbox{ for }k\ne 1,-1 $

Time shift property: $ x(n-n_0) \to e^{-jkw_0n_0}a_k $

Thus with $ w_0=3\pi\, $ and $ n_0=\frac{-\pi}{2} $,

$ a_1=\frac{e^{j 3 \pi \frac{\pi}{2}}}{2},a_{-1}=\frac{e^{-j 3 \pi \frac{\pi}{2}}}{2}, a_k=0 \mbox{ for }k\ne 1,-1 $

Is that right? I'm not sure about the time shift property.

--Cmcmican 21:53, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Student Question: Since this is DT and not CT, shouldn't the focus be on N=2 and not wo? (Clarkjv 20:36, 8 February 2011 (UTC))

Student Response: Yeah, it should be. I did this before today's lecture, and made some mistakes. I'm posting a new answer in answer 2. --Cmcmican 19:46, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Answer 2

Based on lecture today, I am changing my answer to the following:

$ N=\frac{2\pi}{3\pi}k=2 $ so there will be two coefficients.

$ x[n]=\frac{1}{2}e^{j(3\pi n + \frac{\pi}{2})}+\frac{1}{2}e^{-j(3\pi n + \frac{\pi}{2})}=\frac{1}{2}e^{j\frac{\pi}{2}}e^{j3\pi n}+\frac{1}{2}e^{-j\frac{\pi}{2}}e^{-j3\pi n}=\frac{j}{2}e^{j3\pi n}-\frac{j}{2}e^{-j3\pi n} $

and $ e^{j3\pi n}=e^{-j3\pi n}=e^{j\pi n}\, $

so $ x[n]=\frac{j}{2}e^{j\pi n}-\frac{j}{2}e^{j\pi n}=0 $

a0 = 0,a1 = 0

is that right? --Cmcmican 20:01, 9 February 2011 (UTC)



It doesn't look right intuitively.  From ak, you are supposed to be able to get back your original signal. What you have is ak = 0 for all values of k and therefore is a null signal.

How's this?

If $ x[n] = \cos \left(3\pi n + \frac{\pi}{2} \right) . \ $ then ak must be something since you get x[n] by summing all the values of ak multiplied by a factor of e. $ cos(3\pi*n+\pi/2) = \frac{e^(j(3\pi*n+\pi/2)+e^{-j*(3\pi*n+\pi/2)}}{2} =1/2e^{j3\pi*n}e^{j*\pi/2} + 1/2e^{-j3\pi*n}e^{-j\pi/2}= $

$ \frac{1}{2}*e^{j3\pi*n}*e^{j\pi/2}+\frac{1}{2}*e^{-j*3\pi*n}*e^{-j*\pi/2} $

$ a_3=1/2*e^{\pi/2} $

$ a_{-3}=1/2*e^{-j\pi/2} $ (Clarkjv 11:38, 11 February 2011 (UTC))

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