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I have been working out some cases where I can't integrate through trigonometric substitutions (or at least, not easily) but I can using hyperbolic functions.  See if you can solve
 
I have been working out some cases where I can't integrate through trigonometric substitutions (or at least, not easily) but I can using hyperbolic functions.  See if you can solve
  
<math>\int x^2\sqrt{x^2+1}</math>
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<math>\int x^2\sqrt{x^2+1}dx</math>
  
 
Special points if you can solve it using trig functions.
 
Special points if you can solve it using trig functions.
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--[[User:Jmason|John Mason]]
 
--[[User:Jmason|John Mason]]
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Why couldn't you substitute x^2+1 for u and say x^2 = u-1.  then, distribute and just use the power rule.  There is no need for trig substitution for this. - G Briz
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That works wonder if the first part of the integral is x to the third power, but in this case, you end up with an uneliminatable x in the derivative of u.  -- [[User:Jmason|John Mason]]

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I have been working out some cases where I can't integrate through trigonometric substitutions (or at least, not easily) but I can using hyperbolic functions. See if you can solve

$ \int x^2\sqrt{x^2+1}dx $

Special points if you can solve it using trig functions.

The method and thought process

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--John Mason

Why couldn't you substitute x^2+1 for u and say x^2 = u-1. then, distribute and just use the power rule. There is no need for trig substitution for this. - G Briz

That works wonder if the first part of the integral is x to the third power, but in this case, you end up with an uneliminatable x in the derivative of u. -- John Mason

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