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Do you have to use a Cayley table for this problem? Or is there another way to do it? When should Cayley tables be used? | Do you have to use a Cayley table for this problem? Or is there another way to do it? When should Cayley tables be used? | ||
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| + | What is the exact definition of Abelian. I don't understand the significance of it being Abelian I guess. | ||
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| + | I have the same question as Lmiddlet. What is the meaning of Abelian? Thanks! --[[User:Eraymond|Eraymond]] 25:17, 19 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
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| + | A group is Abelian if its Cayley table is symmetric. That is, any two members of the group are commutative. <math>D_3</math> is not Abelian because, for example, <math>F_1*R_{240} \not= R_{240}*F1</math>. If you examine the groups <math>\{R_0,R_{120},R_{240}\}</math> and <math>\{H,F_1H\}</math>, you'll find that any two members are commutative. | ||
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| + | Saying a group is Abelian just means that it is commutative, for example, ab=ba for all choices of a and b within the group. | ||
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| + | --kmmorley | ||
Latest revision as of 15:01, 19 February 2009
Let $ \scriptstyle H $ be a normal subgroup of $ \scriptstyle G $. If $ \scriptstyle H $ and $ \scriptstyle G/H $ are Abelian, must $ \scriptstyle G $ be Abelian?
You need only show a counterexample to the claim: "Given a normal Abelian subgroup $ \scriptstyle H $ of $ \scriptstyle G $ such that $ \scriptstyle G/H $ is Abelian, $ \scriptstyle G $ must also be Abelian." The book cites $ \scriptstyle D_3 $ as such a counterexample.
$ \scriptstyle D_3 $ has the following 6 elements:
$ \scriptstyle R_0\,\,:\,\,ABC\to ABC\,\,\,\,R_{120}\,\,:\,\,ABC\to CAB\,\,\,\,R_{240}\,\,:\,\,ABC\to BCA $
$ \scriptstyle F_1\,\,:\,\,ABC\to CBA\,\,\,\,F_2\,\,:\,\,ABC\to BAC\,\,\,\,F_3\,\,:\,\,ABC\to ACB $
Its Cayley table is:
| $ \textstyle D_3 $ | $ \textstyle R_0 $ | $ \textstyle R_{120} $ | $ \textstyle R_{240} $ | $ \textstyle F_1 $ | $ \textstyle F_2 $ | $ \textstyle F_3 $ | |
| $ \textstyle R_0 $ | $ \scriptstyle R_0 $ | $ \scriptstyle R_{120} $ | $ \scriptstyle R_{240} $ | $ \scriptstyle F_1 $ | $ \scriptstyle F_2 $ | $ \scriptstyle F_3 $ | |
| $ \textstyle R_{120} $ | $ \scriptstyle R_{120} $ | $ \scriptstyle R_{240} $ | $ \scriptstyle R_0 $ | $ \scriptstyle F_2 $ | $ \scriptstyle F_3 $ | $ \scriptstyle F_1 $ | |
| $ \textstyle R_{240} $ | $ \scriptstyle R_{240} $ | $ \scriptstyle R_0 $ | $ \scriptstyle R_{120} $ | $ \scriptstyle F_3 $ | $ \scriptstyle F_1 $ | $ \scriptstyle F_2 $ | |
| $ \textstyle F_1 $ | $ \scriptstyle F_1 $ | $ \scriptstyle F_3 $ | $ \scriptstyle F_2 $ | $ \scriptstyle R_0 $ | $ \scriptstyle R_{240} $ | $ \scriptstyle R_{120} $ | |
| $ \textstyle F_2 $ | $ \scriptstyle F_2 $ | $ \scriptstyle F_1 $ | $ \scriptstyle F_3 $ | $ \scriptstyle R_{120} $ | $ \scriptstyle R_0 $ | $ \scriptstyle R_{240} $ | |
| $ \textstyle F_3 $ | $ \scriptstyle F_3 $ | $ \scriptstyle F_2 $ | $ \scriptstyle F_1 $ | $ \scriptstyle R_{240} $ | $ \scriptstyle R_{120} $ | $ \scriptstyle R_0 $ |
Let $ \scriptstyle H = \{R_0,R_{120},R_{240}\} $. From the Cayley table of $ \scriptstyle D_3 $, it's clear that $ \scriptstyle H $ is Abelian. $ \scriptstyle|D_3:H|\,=\,2 $, so we know that $ \scriptstyle H\triangleleft D_3 $ (we proved this in the previous exercise). $ \scriptstyle D_3/H $ is then $ \scriptstyle \{H,F_1H\} $. The Cayley table for $ \scriptstyle D_3/H $ is:
| $ \scriptstyle D_3/H $ | $ \scriptstyle H $ | $ \scriptstyle F_1H $ | |
| $ \scriptstyle H $ | $ \scriptstyle H $ | $ \scriptstyle F_1H $ | |
| $ \scriptstyle F_1H $ | $ \scriptstyle F_1H $ | $ \scriptstyle H $ |
From this, it is obvious that $ \scriptstyle D_3/H $ is also Abelian. However, $ \scriptstyle D_3 $ is not Abelian. For example, $ \scriptstyle R_{120}F_1\,\,=\,\,F_2 $, but $ \scriptstyle F_1R_{120}\,\,=\,\,F_3 $. Thus, given a normal Abelian subgroup $ \scriptstyle H $ of $ \scriptstyle G $ such that $ \scriptstyle G/H $ is Abelian, $ \scriptstyle G $ need not be Abelian as well. $ \scriptstyle \Box $
- --Nick Rupley 14:43, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Do you have to use a Cayley table for this problem? Or is there another way to do it? When should Cayley tables be used? --Awika 17:00, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Caylee tables are always a safe bet, especially if you are a visual person like myself.
What is the exact definition of Abelian. I don't understand the significance of it being Abelian I guess. --Lmiddlet 23:31, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I have the same question as Lmiddlet. What is the meaning of Abelian? Thanks! --Eraymond 25:17, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
A group is Abelian if its Cayley table is symmetric. That is, any two members of the group are commutative. $ D_3 $ is not Abelian because, for example, $ F_1*R_{240} \not= R_{240}*F1 $. If you examine the groups $ \{R_0,R_{120},R_{240}\} $ and $ \{H,F_1H\} $, you'll find that any two members are commutative.
Saying a group is Abelian just means that it is commutative, for example, ab=ba for all choices of a and b within the group.
--kmmorley
