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I think it is the prime divisors
 
I think it is the prime divisors
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Think of it this way.  What are the prime factors of 36? - 2&3
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An ideal I in R is '''maximal''' if there is '''no interesting, in other words can't contain the whole ring''', ideal that contains I but does not equal I.  
 
An ideal I in R is '''maximal''' if there is '''no interesting, in other words can't contain the whole ring''', ideal that contains I but does not equal I.  
  
For example, <math>Z_10</math> = {0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9}
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For example, Z_10= {0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9}
I contains 2 therefore I contains 4,6,8,0
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I contains 2 therefore I contains 4,6,8,0 <br>
I contains 3 therefore I contains 6,9, but 9 is -1 mod 10 which is 1 which is the unity and thus not interesting
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I contains 3 therefore I contains 6,9, but 9 is -1 mod 10 which is 1 which is the unity and thus not interesting <br>
I contains 4 which is I contains 2
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I contains 4 which is I contains 2 <br>
I contains 5 which is I contains 0 thus is a maximal
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I contains 5 which is I contains 0 thus is a maximal <br>
  
 
I think that explains the reasoning a little more, but essentially due the fact that ideals are in correspondence to single elements of Z mod n then the maximals are the prime divisors of n as you stated.  
 
I think that explains the reasoning a little more, but essentially due the fact that ideals are in correspondence to single elements of Z mod n then the maximals are the prime divisors of n as you stated.  
  
 
--[[User:Robertsr|Robertsr]] 21:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 
--[[User:Robertsr|Robertsr]] 21:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for the explanation.  I used the prime factors, but honestly didn't know why...
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This is what I did for part (d):
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If <math>n = p_1^tp_2^t...p_m^t</math> then the maximal ideals are <math>p_1</math>, <math>p_2</math>,..., <math>p_m</math>
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Hope this helps.

Latest revision as of 18:10, 2 November 2008

How do you find the maximal ideals?
-Wooi-Chen Ng

I looked at the example 14 and illstrated by picture in example 15 on page 266 and it appear to be the multiple of n for example z_36 being <2> and <3> are the maximal ideas, the rest of the multiple of 36 are contained in 2 and 3. I am not sure this is correct but that is what I got from it. -Herr-

This is what I got, as well. I see that the smallest ideals are essentially factors of the other ideals. The "maximal" part is that they are only "contained" by the main. At least that's how I think of it. -Tim F

Perhaps you choose the prime ones? -Josh


I think it is the prime divisors

I'm lost...

Think of it this way. What are the prime factors of 36? - 2&3

An ideal I in R is maximal if there is no interesting, in other words can't contain the whole ring, ideal that contains I but does not equal I.

For example, Z_10= {0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9} I contains 2 therefore I contains 4,6,8,0
I contains 3 therefore I contains 6,9, but 9 is -1 mod 10 which is 1 which is the unity and thus not interesting
I contains 4 which is I contains 2
I contains 5 which is I contains 0 thus is a maximal

I think that explains the reasoning a little more, but essentially due the fact that ideals are in correspondence to single elements of Z mod n then the maximals are the prime divisors of n as you stated.

--Robertsr 21:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. I used the prime factors, but honestly didn't know why...

This is what I did for part (d): If $ n = p_1^tp_2^t...p_m^t $ then the maximal ideals are $ p_1 $, $ p_2 $,..., $ p_m $ Hope this helps.

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