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I was wandering is the unity of the ring the same as the identity and for this problem is the unity the same for multiplication and addition I am a little confused?
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I was wandering is the unity of the ring the same as the identity and for this problem is the unity the same for multiplication and addition I am a little confused?
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I think so.  If you take the Cayley table of {0,2,4,6,8} under multiplication mod 10, you will find that when you multiply 6 by a number mod 10, you get that number (ex.  6x2=2x6=12mod10=2.)  So 6 is the unity (or identity) because when you multiply 6 by a number it does not change.
 
I think so.  If you take the Cayley table of {0,2,4,6,8} under multiplication mod 10, you will find that when you multiply 6 by a number mod 10, you get that number (ex.  6x2=2x6=12mod10=2.)  So 6 is the unity (or identity) because when you multiply 6 by a number it does not change.
 
--Neely Misner
 
--Neely Misner
 
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So are you saying that 6 is also the unity under addition?  I do not understand this part.
 
So are you saying that 6 is also the unity under addition?  I do not understand this part.
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I'm not sure about the addition part, but the element '6' checks by the unity element properties section of Theorem 12.1 on page 237.
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It's my understanding that "unity" is the identity only under multiplication.  It wouldn't make sense to call an additive identity a unity.  Example:  0 might be the identity under addition for some ring, but then the unity, i.e. identity for that same ring under multiplication, might be 1.
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However, you can have a ring like {0} in which the unity is equal to the additive identity, which is zero.
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HW7 (Chapter 12, Problem 2), MA453, Fall 2008, Prof. Walther


I was wandering is the unity of the ring the same as the identity and for this problem is the unity the same for multiplication and addition I am a little confused? Nate Shafer


I think so. If you take the Cayley table of {0,2,4,6,8} under multiplication mod 10, you will find that when you multiply 6 by a number mod 10, you get that number (ex. 6x2=2x6=12mod10=2.) So 6 is the unity (or identity) because when you multiply 6 by a number it does not change. --Neely Misner


So are you saying that 6 is also the unity under addition? I do not understand this part.

I'm not sure about the addition part, but the element '6' checks by the unity element properties section of Theorem 12.1 on page 237. -Tim F


It's my understanding that "unity" is the identity only under multiplication. It wouldn't make sense to call an additive identity a unity. Example: 0 might be the identity under addition for some ring, but then the unity, i.e. identity for that same ring under multiplication, might be 1.

However, you can have a ring like {0} in which the unity is equal to the additive identity, which is zero.



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