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The input x(t) and the output y(t) of a system are related by the equation  
 
The input x(t) and the output y(t) of a system are related by the equation  
  
<math>y(t)=\frac{ {\color{red} t }}{1+x^2(t)}.</math>
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<math>y(t)=\frac{ {\color{red} t }}{1+x^2(t)}.</math>  
  
 
Is the system stable? Answer yes/no and ustify your answer.  
 
Is the system stable? Answer yes/no and ustify your answer.  
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:<span style="color:red">OOPS, I actually meant to put a "t" on top of the fraction (now in red). -pm</span>
 
:<span style="color:red">OOPS, I actually meant to put a "t" on top of the fraction (now in red). -pm</span>
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===Answer 1===
 
This system is stable.
 
I'm actually not sure how to show this, does the following logic work?
 
  
<math>\lim_{x(t) \to 0}\frac{1}{1+x^2(t)} = 1</math> and <math>\frac{1}{1+x^2(t)} < 1 </math> for all x(t), thus the system is stable.
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=== Answer 1 ===
  
I'm not sure that the justification works here...
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This system is stable. I'm actually not sure how to show this, does the following logic work?
  
--[[User:Cmcmican|Cmcmican]] 17:44, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
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<math>\lim_{x(t) \to 0}\frac{1}{1+x^2(t)} = 1</math> and <math>\frac{1}{1+x^2(t)} < 1 </math> for all x(t), thus the system is stable.
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I'm not sure that the justification works here...
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--[[User:Cmcmican|Cmcmican]] 17:44, 24 January 2011 (UTC)  
  
 
:<span style="color:green">Unfortunately no. Here is how you should go about answering such questions.
 
:<span style="color:green">Unfortunately no. Here is how you should go about answering such questions.
::If you think it is stable, then assume that x(t) is bounded (i.e., |x(t)|<m ) and then try to show that y(t) is also bounded (|y(t)<M ).  
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::If you think it is stable, then assume that x(t) is bounded (i.e., |x(t)|&lt;m ) and then try to show that y(t) is also bounded (|y(t)&lt;M ).
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::If you think it is not stable, then try to think of a bounded signal x(t) for which y(t) would not be bounded.
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:<span style="color:green"> Hint for this case: Look at the constant signal x(t)=1. -pm </span>
 
:<span style="color:green"> Hint for this case: Look at the constant signal x(t)=1. -pm </span>
  
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Now that it has a t on top, it's not bounded.
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Now that it has a t on top, it's not bounded.  
  
If you consider the constant signal x(t)=1, then <math class="inline">y(t) = \frac{{t }}{1+1^2} = \frac{{t }}{2}</math>, which is not bounded.
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If you consider the constant signal x(t)=1, then <math>y(t) = \frac{{t }}{1+1^2} = \frac{{t }}{2}</math>, which is not bounded.  
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--[[User:Cmcmican|Cmcmican]] 19:26, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
  
--[[User:Cmcmican|Cmcmican]] 19:26, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:<span style="color:green">Good! And what if there was no t on top? -pm </span>
 
:<span style="color:green">Good! And what if there was no t on top? -pm </span>
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Write it here.
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If there is not a t on top (i.e it is back to being a '1'), then the signal is bounded.  
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Considering the case where <math>|x(t)| \le \infty</math> then <math>0<\frac{{1}}{1+x^2(t)}\le1</math>.
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<math>\therefore y(t)</math> is bounded by <math>-1 \le M \le 1</math>
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Practice Question on System Stability

The input x(t) and the output y(t) of a system are related by the equation

$ y(t)=\frac{ {\color{red} t }}{1+x^2(t)}. $

Is the system stable? Answer yes/no and ustify your answer.

OOPS, I actually meant to put a "t" on top of the fraction (now in red). -pm

Share your answers below

You will receive feedback from your instructor and TA directly on this page. Other students are welcome to comment/discuss/point out mistakes/ask questions too!


Answer 1

This system is stable. I'm actually not sure how to show this, does the following logic work?

$ \lim_{x(t) \to 0}\frac{1}{1+x^2(t)} = 1 $ and $ \frac{1}{1+x^2(t)} < 1 $ for all x(t), thus the system is stable.

I'm not sure that the justification works here...

--Cmcmican 17:44, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately no. Here is how you should go about answering such questions.

















If you think it is stable, then assume that x(t) is bounded (i.e., |x(t)|<m ) and then try to show that y(t) is also bounded (|y(t)<M ).
If you think it is not stable, then try to think of a bounded signal x(t) for which y(t) would not be bounded.


Hint for this case: Look at the constant signal x(t)=1. -pm

Answer 2

Now that it has a t on top, it's not bounded.

If you consider the constant signal x(t)=1, then $ y(t) = \frac{{t }}{1+1^2} = \frac{{t }}{2} $, which is not bounded.

--Cmcmican 19:26, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Good! And what if there was no t on top? -pm

Answer 3

If there is not a t on top (i.e it is back to being a '1'), then the signal is bounded.

Considering the case where $ |x(t)| \le \infty $ then $ 0<\frac{{1}}{1+x^2(t)}\le1 $.

$ \therefore y(t) $ is bounded by $ -1 \le M \le 1 $





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